BSL is bad: November 2014

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November 22

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Annie Cowan Brown Its a picture of your mama, bitch.

Like · Reply · 4 · November 23 at 8:59am

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Kitt Hallow Really? Mama jokes? And hm, derogatory name calling to.....I have a question: what ghetto are you from?

Unlike · 2 · November 23 at 11:08pm
Annie Cowan Brown HIS neighborhood. In a land where people create phony facebook pages to harrass grieving parents who have been eaten in the jaws of a dog JUST like this one. In ALLBETSAREOFFSVILLE.

Like · 3 · November 24 at 1:48am
Annie Cowan Brown Yeah Kitt, mama jokes.

Like · 1 · November 24 at 1:48am
Kitt Hallow And how old are you?
Seems like a down right awful place to live. You know, maybe pages like this wouldn't be up If Bogart didn't harass people like he does. What comes around goes around.

Unlike · 2 · November 24 at 4:49am
Annie Cowan Brown Im too old to care what anyone really thinks. Especially those that I have no respect for. And I'm completely floored by the lack of respect for victims and the inhumanness of this kind of person. Sometimes it gets away from me and I actually sink dismally to their level. Its just out of anger and disbelief. I hate looking at shattered bodies, faces and lives. My bad.

Like · 3 · November 24 at 5:43am
Annie Cowan Brown Really, really sad

Like · 2 · November 24 at 5:43am
Kitt Hallow Hey, Its fine. I understand. Im upset by the hatred filing around. I may be pro-pit, but I can say two wrongs don't make a right. Pages like this are a bit distasteful. But how Bogart treats people is also distasteful. Personally, why I do believe pages like this are wrong, I do not think the page's creator is soley for disrespecting victims or Inhumane. I think they are just tired of how Bogart acts. And I don't blame them. The extremists on both sides of the fence need to be toned down.

Unlike · 3 · November 24 at 5:54am
Annie Cowan Brown Agreed. Hard to tell Jeff to tone down though. I dont think that I would tone down after my baby boy was killed. Maybe oneday, but not for awhile. People need to STOP talking back to the victims, stop challenging them with personal experiences. They dont care, they are in pain, numb. We should let them vent and leave them alone. Of course they will respond like that. Noone KNOWS how many attacks he has had. Can't people just walk away?

Unlike · 3 · November 24 at 3:06pm
Annie Cowan Brown Thank you Kitt.

Unlike · 1 · November 24 at 3:06pm
Cindy M Ballard Jeff has never been rude or hateful to anyone, and he has been tormented, terrorized, bullied, victimized, you name it! He has every right to react to all of it and then some if he has! Until you walk his path, do not judge! There are many fake accounts with his name, created just to give him a bad reputation because he is polite to everyone.

Like · 2 · November 24 at 4:04pm
Jennie Conway Unless these fools have seen the horrifying end results of a pit bull attack they should shut their mouths! Unless you have seen the victims shut up already. Psychopaths have no empathy!

Like · 2 · November 24 at 4:59pm
Jeff Boofhead thank you Kitt Hallow & Annie Cowan Brown for showing some respect for each other and dropping the hate speech and talkning i ask the same of Cindy M Ballard & Jennie Conway to do the same pls, let me confirm to you kitt your right you nailed it, i'm sick of hearing all the outrageous comment from both sides and not just jeff?, that scum that made the football comment and such need counselling seriously?? we all agree on that,, anyone attacking or bellittling or ill treating a victim in any way shape or form s unacceptible,,, the thing is jeff and some of you people even have attacked me for simply stating that the dogs listed as attacking Daxton (may he RIP) were boxer mixes,, ???? Annie you passionately defend victims lashing out but have you considered that I may be a victim too and the reason I'm so passionately opposed to bsl because it was a non pitbull that attacked me (cattle mastiff mix) and BSL does nothing to prevent similar attacks in the future, doesn't give me every much as much right as any one else to speak on this issue??

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Jeff Boofhead Cindy M Ballard " Jeff has never been rude or hateful to anyone " isn't it hatefull to threaten to feed your neighbors dog anti freeze if it looks like a pitbull ?? Cindy be real here now for no other reason then the way it looks, this type of negative comment exposes jd what if some nutter poisons pitbulls with anti freeze and then gets caught and admits to getting the idea of the internet from one of his numerous anti freeze posts which are on so many blogss and pages??

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Kitt Hallow Your welcome, Annie.
I agree, It would be hard to tone down. I have my moment to, everyone does. People need to learn how to sit back and understand from different points of view. And yes, they need to learn to just walk away.

To Boofhead: I try, and your welcome. I try to be respectful, Its really not that hard.

To Cindy and Jennie::
Sorry to burst yal's bubble, but Ive personally seen some of the rude comments on pages as well as screenshots where Bogart is rude when someone posts a calm comment opposing his view. Yes, Ive never talked to him myself, Im sure he can be polite. And yes, I agree he has had severe backlash from Idiots who are Insensitive and have no right to be debating. However, when you make nasty comments to minors, share pictures without consent, and down play victims of non-pit attacks, I can't conclude your have good morals.

What Bogart needs to realize Is venting and working to better the goal of less attacks should be his priority in the debate. He needs to learn not to stoop to the Insensitive Idiots' level. If he did this, he'd probably look much better as a person In the eyes of many people.

I have walked down his path. Not with a child, but a very close childhood friend. I have also been down the victms path, as I have been attacked by a pit as a child. I know how Bogart feels. I just took a different path when it came to these dogs. Im not judging by his views. Im judging by the comments he makes, by the pics he posts without consent, down playing non-pit victims and by threats to kill dogs.

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Annie Cowan Brown Kitt, as far as the sharing pictures without consent goes, have you ever seen the Foamers pages? They took several of my pictures and put them on their page with insults to me personally, they put me on a foamer family tree and many other things. Sometimes people fight fire with fire. This Boofhead page for example, is not right.This page DESTROYS credibility. This person has NO STAKE in this issue whatsoever except "him got hims feelings hurt" This page and the foamers pages among others, are EXACTLY what continues ill feelings. Not one of those people would be acting this way if their own dog turned on them and killed their child. Some of our bsl advocates were BIG pit advocates BEFORE their dog killed a family member. Now they see the whole picture and believe laws should be in place for dangerous dog breeds/types to protect and give justice after attacks.
Stealing photos and posting comments actually made by another person should be illegal, but its not because of the fb waivers. Its not right to post peoples pics and then talk ugly about them. Its just plain inhuman to attack a grieving parent, EVER, FOR ANY REASON. People just need to walk away.
None of those people know me, they just know that I stand strong for victims rights and laws to protect humans, so that makes me the bad guy. Well, if trying to stand up for mauled children and pets is BAD. Then I guess I am. I dont have hate in my heart for anyone or anything. But I DO have alot of disbelief that we can't join forces and come up with a solution to stop this insanity.

Like · 22 hours ago
Kitt Hallow Hey, I do agree with the fact posting pictures of people and bad mouthing Is wrong. Its despicable, on both sides. Both sides needs to stop though, not just ours. The humility of another person should be done on their own terms.

Standing up for anything Isn't bad. I see it on both sides and understand both sides. I just think killing off a host of breeds Isn't the answer is all. And the hatred does need to stop. Im striving for the same goal, to stop attacks, just with the dogs still In the picture. If both sides could be as reasonable with eachother as you and me, I think this Issue could have been solved already.

Like · 1 · 21 hours ago
Annie Cowan Brown I agree with you Kitt. Honestly I have put together a Facebook page in hopes that pit and BSL advocates could work together to come up with solutions. I actually have a page that is already posted but it is not open yet, called pitbull pragmatics. I have just never been able to find any pit advocates that were willing to talk to me frankly without anger or were willing to talk to me period. So I appreciate that about you. Maybe you and I could work on some things behind the scenes without interference and then start pulling people that are like-minded into our partnership. I believe there are rogue people on each side of the fence that are doing things that are not cool and those people need to be shut down by the folks who are handling things appropriately. Maybe that could be an issue that we address as well. I will private message you.

Like · 17 hours ago
Jeff Boofhead Annie Cowan Brown I tried to talk to jeff and he attacked me, i don't own a pitbull this page is in protest to the "owners submitted" page and will dissappear if that page does?? I respond in kind to that sort of behavior as you'll see, i have not deleted all the negative comments, the page is as people make and not shaped or manipulated to give a certain impressio, i welcome some reasonable conversation and applaud your initiative thank you

Like · 13 hours ago
Jeff Boofhead And here I was thinking we were making headway and then you say this Annie Cowan Brown "" This person has NO STAKE in this issue whatsoever except "him got hims feelings hurt" "" oh and Annie Cowan Brownpls explain this " None of those people know me, they just know that I stand strong for victims rights and laws to protect humans, so that makes me the bad guy. """ Annie seems to be a strange name for a guy??

Like · · 12 hours ago
Annie Cowan Brown I'm not a guy. I am a female personal trainer. I live in San Antonio. Now that you have actually come out and stated why you have a stake in this we can understand. We have all said and done things that we weren't proud of in our lives. We are human. I am a breed specific legislation advocate. That MEANS that there are breeds of dogs that I believe should be legislated, or governed for the safety of humans, because of their behavior. I believe that all bully breeds, mastiffs, rotties, wolves, and other dogs that have proven themselves to be dangerous through their actions should be governed by a set of laws that will hold their owners to strict standards. These laws should include but are not limited to: the way they are kept ( too many are loose on the streets, I saw one yesterday in downtown New Braunfels), the way they are walked (too many are off leash or get away from owners - I saw MANY of these this past summer at the river), the way they are handled in homes (if you have company, they must either be supervised COMPLETELY or put away under lock and), in stores (they must NEVER be forced onto people or allowed to go after another animal). These laws should restrict owners of dangerous dogs from taking them certain places. I mean, if you choose a breed that is aggressive, they don't belong just anywhere and all owners are not created equal and some WONT be responsible. Some use common sense and safety and some are reckless. Children should not take them out alone for walks. Which brings me to a point, the problem with pitbulls in general. I have read about, seen video of, and talked to victims and there hundreds of attacks every few months by these dogs. Then you see hundreds of accounts by pit owners where they are gentle and loving dogs. They seem to be both. Angela Rutledge's dog Kissy Face was a family pet for 8 years or so. Kissy was a member of the family, slept with her kids, lived in the home with love, never abused or neglected. One day, she went to the bathroom and left Kissy and her son Beau in the livingroom watching tv. She returned to find that Beau has been decapitated by the dog, who walked up to her wagging, then went back to him picked up his body and shook it again. This is, "hello, I'm a dog" behavior. This is something that a yorkie or chihuahua could not possibly have done. If you own a dog capable of this, you HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THIS. Angela was a STAUNCH pitbull advocate, like many who raise them with children. Now she believes in bsl and wishes she had never believed differently. Then there are people who have owned them for years with no problems. Everyone who owns a pitbull has seen them be aggressive at some point. And when I say aggressive, It doesn't have to mean vicious aggressive, it can mean overactive and tenacious. There is a very fine line between that and an attack. A quick demeanor change.
Also, these laws should restrict who can own and breed these dogs. Overbreeding for $$ is wrong, its's endangering people and animals, and increasing unwanted dogs that are filling our shelters. You can't own a potentially dangerous breed without restrictions, just like guns, exotic animals, etc. Anything that, if mishandled, can kill someone must have rules. These laws must include accountability. You break the law, you pay, and must have the means (insurance, cash) to pay for medical expenses and all other issues surrounding an attack. The victims lose their lives, their family members, their pets, or their limbs, face, eyes, tongues, and often are never aided by the very person who chose the animal and handled it irresponsibly. Laws should include euthanizing ANY dog that commits an unprovoked attack on an individual and CERTAINLY if the person or pet is killed. ANY ANIMAL OUT FOR BLOOD HAS NO PLACE IN SOCIETY.
These are just a few of my thoughts.
You might notice that I did not say ban the breed or euthanize all these dogs. While they have proven to be unpredictable, there are many that are apparently ok. Will those dogs remain ok? Time will tell. I'm personally never going to own one. The pitbull that attacked me was a neighbor's pet that escaped the fence. I was lucky enough to escape him. I would like to see them banned, don't get me wrong. Not because they are all bad, but because there are too many irresponsible people who own them, there are too many irresponsible people who breed them. And NO ONE IS AROUND BUT THE VICTIM TO SUFFER THE CONSEQUENCES. I won't support a ban unless it is in an area where there is complete chaos, but I would like to see laws. Breed specific legislation involves WAY MORE than a ban. A ban is the last resort.
Oh, and "the bad guy" is a term used to mean, the person that people look down on. It is interchangeable for men and women and should not be taken literally. Have you never heard that before?
I'm sorry about your attack. I'm sure you can relate to victims then.
This fb page might better serve your purpose if it continues to bring us together, not divide us. (Typed on my phone Sorry for any typos or spell check errors.)

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Jeff Boofhead if you focus on a particular breed or type of dog you have ZERO chance of stopping all bites deaths attacks etc, and I'm assuming that's what we all want ? vicious ogs not matter what the breed ie: breed neutral legislation would have across the board support from every advocate i've spoken to, it's the only way to stop all deaths?

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Jeff Boofhead i acknowledg the "bad guy" thing and admit i was only joking?

Like · 2 hours ago
Annie Cowan Brown Obviously some dogs are not truly capable of killing someone, I mean, seriously. I think we HAVE to focus on breeds that we recognize ss dangerous due to statistics. But agreed there be strong laws for dogs across the board. People need to look at owning a pet as a privilege more than their right. When someone feels their rights are being threatened they get defensive. We need for people to be able to see that their rights cannot infringe (by harm or death) on another's rights.

Like · about an hour ago
Annie Cowan Brown The bad guy thing sounds untrusting. But why should you? After all, I do think you are a butthead for putting this page up. Now I'm oddly thankful. Hopeful that we can start working together on this conflict for the benefit of all.

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Jeff Boofhead if a dogs dangerous it's dangerous and by dropping the breed thing we have a greater chance of stopping all he deaths and I'm in support of anything that takes a step in the right direction, there's ne need to be name calling and carrying we can all discuss this maturely ,, Im all for it ?

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Annie Cowan Brown The reality is that MOST PEOPLE whose dogs attack were SURPRISED by it. They never expected it out of their precious angel. Seriously? NEVER? To me, that's hard to believe. It just sounds like someone trying to get out of trouble, trying to dodge responsibility. If not, then we are seeing a whole lot of unpredictability in certain breeds. Paired with size and history of attack, unpredictability is the factor that brings me to the conclusion that certain breeds MUST be targeted more than others. If it were beagles, I'd feel the same way. One owners dogs "surprise" behavior should NOT be another persons tragedy. We don't allow lions to roam the streets. We do let cats. One is more dangerous in attack mode. Do both attack? Yes, do both kill when they attack, no. Yet we can weigh the threats to society. The same must be done here.

Like · 57 minutes ago
Jeff Boofhead the calgary model which is the most successfull in the world is breed neutral and owner specific,, I won't ignore victims of non pitbulls we want to stop all the deaths not just a certain percentage that may be, no, we want to stop 100% of DBRD's?

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